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#swcp l’innovation dans les entreprises, un enjeu de relations publiques ?

Publié le 21 septembre 2009 par Lilzeon

Citoyens !

Comme promis, un mini compte rendu  de l’atelier (en anglais) autour de « collaborative ideation et innovation » @ Social Web Camp in Paris. Etaient présents Julian Loren, Womarketing et UnSuShidansmonlit. Quelques notes, en vrac :

in a network : ask people to pay.

Part of the reoson they pay = resilience & continuity

VC « I have something new ». Pb : always something new. So why invest ?
what is ideation ?
ideas from brainstorming ex: Adobe/ a contest
ultimate innovation goal : adoption
how can we use/augment ideation platforms to reach business goals?
Innovation: still this idea of manufacturing
in complex projects: the 1st person comes with the strategy, flawless. Then detailed designs. Then something else. A pb in the management process. And finally you have to force it down & monetize the product.

How social networks can soften the whole process?

j’étais assez surpris de voir que derrière le barbarisme « optimisation du processus d’ ideation », c’est en fait quelque chose qu’on utilise tous les jours en social media marketing : engager les atouts (hommes, plateformes, que sais-je ?) au plus tôt dans la chaîne de valeur pour la rendre plus efficace, et surtout plus pertinente. Je sais que ça peut encore surprendre, mais les RP servent justement à ça, et pas seulement à bazarder des communiqués de presse.

Une autre idée abordée était que pour que ces communautés créées fonctionnent, il aurait fallu des individus pour diriger les autres contributeurs. Sur le moment, je n’ai pas réagi, mais il s’agit bien plutôt de diriger les conversations vers les endroits les plus pertinents. On appelle ça community mangement, non ? :p

Bon, c’était quand même sympatoche :

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  1. New_avatar_normal benoitvidal RT @davidbgk Mon retour sur #swcp http://bgk.me/p/276 (foaf+ssl, internet of subjects, nouvelle forme de partenariat) about 2 hours ago from Nambu
  2. Photo_david_larlet_normal davidbgk Mon retour sur #swcp http://bgk.me/p/276 (foaf+ssl, internet of subjects, nouvelle forme de partenariat) about 9 hours ago from Tweetie
  3. Stuart_culshaw_avatar_normal ouebguy @Wion @lacantine Comptes rendus #swcp: http://bit.ly/w68kJ Reseaux sociaux vs. assocs / monétisation / collaborative ideation & innovation about 11 hours ago from Lounge
  4. Parties2_normal jfleck Promising new #ABQ blog: Josh Gentry on acting locally http://syn.swcp.com/ about 13 hours ago from TweetDeck
  5. Bfish bblfish Je vais etre a Paris jusqu’au 14/10 et serai heureux d’aider qui le veux de les aider a implementer #foaf+ssl. #swcp envoyé moi un mail. about 16 hours ago from TweetDeck
  6. Philippe_pillavoine_0612308298_pillavoine_free pillavoine RT @lilzeon @pillavoine #swcp bravo pour la perf! Merci beaucoup pour les félicitations! A bientôt à @lacantine ;-) about 20 hours ago from web
  7. Bfish bblfish new blog post covering yesterday’s « Social Web Bar Camp in Paris » ( #swcp ) and the talk on #foaf+ssl at #lacantine http://is.gd/3ueGa about 21 hours ago from TweetDeck
  8. Bfish bblfish new blog post covering yesterday’s « Social Web Bar Camp in Paris » #swcp #lacantine about 22 hours ago from TweetDeck
  9. N518901390_2108808_7476_normal LeoGourven a vraiment été intéressé par la présentation de foaf + ssl au #swcp. 1 day ago from web
  10. Stuart_culshaw_avatar_normal ouebguy Bravo à toute l’équipe de @lacantine et SocialWebCamp Paris #swcp pour cette super journée d’échanges. http://bit.ly/4dKiD2 1 day ago from Lounge
  11. Stuart_culshaw_avatar_normal ouebguy Had a great time @ SocialWebCamp Paris. I even moderated a session on associations & social networks! Writing up my notes @lacantine #swcp 1 day ago from Lounge
  12. Photo_david_larlet_normal davidbgk Ne regrette pas du tout d’être venu au #swcp Personnes intéressantes, projets intéressants. Je vais enfin me mettre sérieusement à FOAF+SSL 1 day ago from Twitterrific
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  14. Ip_normal ileanarocio @thien streal is out of service :( #swcp @lilizeon where we can follow the discussion? maybe a post later ? 1 day ago from HootSuite
  15. Sncf_normal lilzeon @cattias à la Cantine. #swcp ;) 1 day ago from web
  16. New_avatar_normal benoitvidal Réseaux sociaux décentralisés (FOAF + SSL),  »Internet of Subjects » et rencontres intéressantes au menu du Social Web Camp Paris #swcp 1 day ago from Nambu
  17. Sncf_normal lilzeon @pillavoine #swcp bravo pour la perf! 1 day ago from web
  18. Socialcomputingsmall_normal socomputing How to improve ? RT @lilzeon: #swcp in engineering people love crazy research projets. Pb: low rates of long-term adoption 1 day ago from TweetDeck
  19. Sncf_normal lilzeon @LaetitiaAttali #swcp I don’t know but I’m surprise of the curb of experience. a gap btw innovation & social media, definitely. 1 day ago from web
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  21. Socialcomputingsmall_normal socomputing Very interesting place : http://www.calt.insead.edu/ #swcp #elearning #socialnetwork #socialmedia #graphs 1 day ago from TweetDeck
  22. Socialcomputingsmall_normal socomputing How to leverage social networks as an innovation vector or as a CI tool ?#swcp 1 day ago from Twitterrific
  23. Sncf_normal lilzeon #swcp talking about culture, HR, community management etc. management is now communication 1 day ago from web
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  32. Sncf_normal lilzeon #swcp microblogging, we don’t care. micro favours, we do. 1 day ago from web
  33. Sncf_normal lilzeon #swcp we’re never ready. so as we don’t have to wait a perfect product before marketing it. it’ll become perfect 1 day ago from web
  34. Img000002_normal womarketing adoption and configuration is a real problem for an innovetion. Community help to market a good project with a strong idea? #swcp 1 day ago from web
  35. Ip_normal ileanarocio ++power to the people++ RT @thien: interesting idea : using communities to validate innovative ideas #swcp 1 day ago from HootSuite
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  37. Ip_normal ileanarocio @KleinIngo me encantaria estar en Paris pero no, hoy hay social web camp #swcp en un sitio q llaman La cantine donde siempreestan los duros 1 day ago from HootSuite
  38. Sncf_normal lilzeon #swcp funny to see that when it comes to ideation & innovation, conversations are always led around science & high-tech companies 1 day ago from web
  39. Sncf_normal lilzeon #swcp in engineering people love crazy research projets. Pb: low rates of long-term adoption 1 day ago from web
  40. Sncf_normal lilzeon @ileanarocio #swcp now talking about IBM on how social networks leverage new process/ideas purely by force of people talking 1 day ago from web
  41. Sncf_normal lilzeon talking about innovation & ideation & the power of social networks. How can it help the whole value chain? #swcp 1 day ago from web
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  65. Sncf_normal lilzeon @ileanarocio there’ll also be @womarketing tomorrow at Social Web Camp Paris ( #swcp ) & @thien and I are happy to meet him ! 2 days ago from web
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